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What’s the difference in pianos

Posted May 20th, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on What’s the difference in pianos

I am probably asked at least once during a sales presentation the difference in pianos and why one may be $2500.00 and the next piano of comparable size is $7500.00.

Pianos now come from at least three main areas of the globe.  #1 by far is the production that is going on in Asia.  Whether Japan, Korea, Indonesia, China or Vietnam (yes, Vietnam) the largest percentage of piano being produced now are from Asia.

Years ago when you spoke of an Asian piano it was with some disdain that you even mentioned it.  While some still don’t like it, the truth is that they are doing a really good job in building pianos.  For some time we have identified Asian pianos with a really bright, almost “tinty” sound.  Today we are seeing many pianos such as Pearl River’s Rittmueller, Perzina, Brodmann and others that are arriving from China in a near perfect tuning, good regulation and a European smooth sound.

It has been an incredible change in production that we have witnessed right before our eyes.  I for one am constantly amazed at the differnce in quality of the piano as well as the quality of sound that is being produced in Asia.

I will continue to discuss the various areas of the world that pianos are currently being produced in and the sound textures and differences that you can/should expect.

Eventually in the transition of PianoSD I will be discussing various pricing and with the help of some others I will start to hopefully explain piano name brands and give my opinions on what you can and should expect with each.

While pianos are my passion, I have a great love for piano teaching and a respect for the piano teachers and hope to promote thier craft.  I am certainly trying to bring music education to Nipomo, Ca.  where I presently manage The Piano Outlet.  You can find us at www.thepianooutletco.com .

I hope you enjoy this blog as much as I enjoy bringing it to you.

Ric

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My Passion

Posted May 16th, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on My Passion

If you have read my blogs at all, you know my biggest passion in life is the piano.  There are a million reasons why but, I absolutely love this business.

The people, teachers, technicians, dealers, enthusiasts, students and suppliers all work together to one common goal and that is simply to make music.  Making music is the bringing together of all types of talents and joys in every walk of life to make a melody line and a chord structure.

We have all suffered the economic downturns, some more than others but, through it all we have banded together to create a new world in the music business.

As the changes in our website begin to take place I am getting more excited about the changes and really are expecting some really big accomplishments as we begin the process of changing the site over to a social directory, pulling all of the talents and names and information together.

We are looking forward to serving the music community and hope that you will all stick with us and make suggestions when you can.

Thanks

Ric Overton

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Visit in Germany

Posted May 15th, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on Visit in Germany

Russell Kassman, a dear friend of R Kassman Pianos in Berkely, Ca. is in Germany and was nice enough to put in a post on the world famous www.PianoWorld.comabout his trip to Germany.  I was so jealous but, after reminding myself how beautiful Nipomo, Ca. is I decided to be satisfied with my present surroundings and live vicariously through his experiences in Germany.  I contacted him via www.Facebook.com, of course, and asked his permission to re post his report of his trip to the home of pianos.  Here it is-via R Kassman Pianos, Berkely, Ca www.RKassman.com

Repost from www.PianoWorld.com

AN EXPENSIVE DAY IN BAYREUTH!!!
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I just left Bayreuth and the Steingraeber & Sohne factory and am on my way to the Black Forest to visit the Sauter piano company. I was honored to be the first person outside of factory workers to play/test the new Steingraeber 192. THIS is going to be a fantastic piano! I am posting a picture for you to have a look. It is remarkable, and has the same action as the Steingraeber 212 – very quick and decisive and an immense amount of power for the size… think Steingraeber 170 on Steroids. All of you going on the PW European tour might be able to try it as well (if you beg and plead with Udo smile)I also played (for several hours) three Steingraeber Concert Grands and selected one to replace the one we just sold to composer Gordon Getty. The new one I selected is a fabulous instrument with majestic power and a depth of tone like the Grand Canyon. I am really excited about this instrument, BUT I am doing cartwheels about another piano I bought! During my “testing time”, two factory workers rolled in a 232 (7’6″) that had just come from being used for a recording. I sat down to try it and COULD NOT pull myself away from that piano for nearly one hour. IT IS FABULOUS. After begging, pleading, and SEVERAL glasses of Schnapps, I got Udo Steingraeber to agree to sell it to me. Anyone who wants to hear one of the finest pianos I have EVER played in my many years should either go on the PW Tour and ask Udo to play Russell’s D-232 or you can beat a path to Berkeley when it arrives.

Now, on to the Black Forest area tomorrow morning for a visit to Sauter Pianos. Wow, what a great trip but my Mastercard is screaming!

and now if I wasnt jealous enough – Post from Sauter from www.PianoWorld.com

As if my visit to Bayreuth, and the Steingraeber factory weren’t enough to cause serious damage to my credit card, my visit to Ulrich Sauter, and the Sauter factory, resulted in me being waken in the middle of the night by my credit card shreaking in agony!First, you should know that the drive from Bayreuth to Tuttlingen is quite beautiful, and as you leave the city of Stuttgart and head into the Schwarz-Wald (black forest) the scenery becomes everything you imagined as a child reading Hansel and Grethel. The Sauter factory is located in Spaichingen, which is a small town in the larger series of “stadts” of Tuttlingen (best known for the worlds most advanced surgical devices – and coo-coo clocks) and Rotweil (as in the dogs, the Romans, and the oldest community in Europe). It is also the home of the Lake of Constance which has borders on France and Switzerland, and it is where the Danube River begins – so you get the influence of German baking, French sauces and Swiss presentation. My hotel was at the wood bridge over the mouth of the Danube (you should be jealous about now). I spent my first evening, after my drive, gorging on Venison in a lingonberry sauce served with Spaetzel (sort of noodles) and Spargel, which is white asparagus that is in season. Of course, we had to have something to wash all of that down, so Uli ordered a wonderful local white wine that went perfectly with our meal. Ah, life is good. Of course, dinner was followed by more schnapps.

The next morning, a lite mist was over the valley when Uli picked me up from the hotel and we headed to the factory a few minutes up the road. My goal was to just take pictures of two pianos I already have on order for customers so that I could show them the progress and to try to get out of town without tripling my debt. Yeah, right, sure.

While going from the office area to the main factory, there was a piano sitting in the factory concert area that stopped me dead in my tracks. True, it was the look of the piano that set my heart pacing, but when I sat down to it, I was left breathless by the depth and quality of sound. While I am lucky to represent many fine piano makers, and several are of comparable quality standard, I can’t think of any that equals Sauter in its ability to make uprights that equal the musicality of most grands. Add to that the stunning quality of the furniture and you have an unbeatable combination.

This piano is called a “PURE”, and it’s cabinet was designed by Peter Maly, the “guru” of contemporary furniture design. It has a polished ebony background and the keyframe/keybed/fallboard is in polished Zambrano. Now, I had never seen or heard of Zembrano before, but Uli indicated it is in the Rosewood family. But really, saying it is like Rosewood is like saying wine is like grape juice. I am posting pictures on our FACEBOOK PAGE : LINK HERE – Scroll down to the end of the FB post for the pics.

Well, I already have a great selection of Sauter uprights in my shop, with a few on order, so I began to plot what I could possibly do to get this one. I continued on my factory tour, taking pictures of my customer’s pianos, and plotting my next move on the Zambrano upright. Luckily, later that day, I was able to catch Uli in a well planned trap.

You see, over the years I have visited the area quite a bit. And Uli knows that I won’t leave Tuttlingen without a visit to this one farmer who makes a combination apple/pear schnapps that you can buy. Oh Wait, YOU can’t buy it but I did :P. So, after lunch that is exactly where we headed. To my surprise, the farmer now has a sort of tasting room, and has added several other versions of his ware, including an “herb schnapps” which has a sort of rosemary/thyme flavor, a sort of anise schnapps, and several others – whose names I can’t remember for reasons better left untold (aka too much tasting).

So, it was in this tasting room that I decided to make my move with Ulrich, and I convinced him to let me buy this piano now, with the agreement that if I haven’t sold it by NAMM, I will let him use it for the display in January. Heheh, I guess you could say yet another German piano maker has fallen into my schnapps trap.

Together with the pianos I bought at Steingraeber, we are going to have a fantastic collection going into summer and fall. But, all that tough negotiating (read schnapps drinking) made me feel I deserved a bit of a vacation, so I headed to Zurich (one hour from Tuttlingen) and got on a plane for Barcelona – and on the beach I sit, writing this and drinking – I’ll bet you’re thinking Schnapps – no way, Sangria!

Unfortunately, all of this ends on Monday when I have to fly back home to San Francisco to open the store on Tuesday, and rejoin Weight Watchers Tuesday night. I hope all the PW members going on the European factory tour have as much fun as I have had. And take it from me, if you fall in love with a piano on your journey and want to find a way to bring it home with you, grab the factory owner and a bottle of Schnapps and see where things go!

So naturally I was very jealous!!!! I asked him if I could relate his story and he happily agreed.  I hope you enjoyed his post as much as I did.

More

Posted February 23rd, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on More

There have been about 6 or 8 major changes since the very earliest days after the invention of the piano.  I have located a picture that you may be interested in.

This is rumored to be one of the very first pianos.  Between the years of about 1790 and leading up to the the years around 1870 the changes that were bought about were changes that would last til today.

  1. The original piano only had 5 (five) octaves.  These were eventually stretched out to 71/2 octaves in the early 1800’s.  There are some manufacturers that have experimented with longer octave ranges like Bosendorfer (for example) and a couple of others. However, these pianos are not in common manufacturing lines.
  2. We integrated the use of an iron plate to help with the stability of the piano and assisting in making it last much longer than the older ones may have been capable of.  The one piece casting is very heavy with some weighing up to several hundred pounds.  Originally the piano either did not have a plate or a wooden plate.  I am sure that when this was originally done the enthusiasts of that day thought this was a horrible idea and that the piano had been ruined.
  3. The hammers which had been made of leather gave a very tinky sound because of the hardness of the leathers.  Early in the 1800’s it was discovered that you could use hammers made of felt.  The felt hammers would increase the tone of the piano (notice that I said “increase the tone” and not “increase the volume”) and this gave the piano a much richer tone than the piano that Cristofori had brought to us earlier.

Over the next few days I will be telling you more about the history of the piano and fill you in on the other changes that the piano was about to undertake.

Ric

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More about the history of pianos

Posted February 20th, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on More about the history of pianos

Cristofori had made a HUGE impact on keyboard instruments by inventing and producing the first of what would become known as the piano.  Although the initial pianos  were an incredible feat, there was an incredible difference between what was originally created and what we now know.

The first actions were different in many ways.  First, the sound was not as strong as what we presently enjoy.  There were a number of reasons why.  One of the reasons was that the soundboard of the piano was made differently and the ability of the artist to project at the volumes that are now possible was not possible with the soundboard of that era.

Strings were another issue.  At the time, the string makers had not yet made it possible to produce strings with the diameter that are produced presently.  They did not have the technology to understand that the bass strings could be wrapped with copper and the inside diameter of the strings could be increased in order to make a larger sound.

The biggest differences would come in the action of the piano.  The action of that era was not only uneven but, the hammers were not controllable.  The hammers could not strike the strings with the same velocity and with the same power that we have now.  The action was somewhat more fragile and strike points were somewhat different and all of this added to the resistance that the artist felt when he/she began to play.

It has been said that “they just aren’t made like they used to be” and that is very true.  When I am asked my opinion I often respond with “you are correct.  Its better”.

I hope to be able to explain this in more detail in the next few blogs.

Ric Overton

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In the beginning

Posted February 19th, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on In the beginning

The idea of having strings attached to another piece of wood that made sound had been around for years but the idea of having a keyboard was not truly developed until around the 1400’s.  For the next 300 years (give or take a year or two), the harpsichord was the instrument that set the “bench mark” for keyboard instruments.

Sure, there were many other instruments that came and went, a small portable harpsichord, and variations on the harpsichord did come on the scene from time to time and their popularity came and went, but the harpsichord was the instrument that was to be the traditional instrument for many composers and artists to use not only for “pop” music but also for worship in local churches and houses of worship.

The idea of the harpsichord was that the hammers moved forward to the strings, the strings were then plucked as the hammer returned to its resting point.  This was the standard sound that was heard but there were a few problems with this that necessitated a different technique in producing sound.  One of the biggest problems was that the sound could not be made softer or louder.   This made it  very difficult to write music that allowed feeling.

Sometime in the early 1700’s, many people believe it was between 1707 to 1712 that a man by the name of Bartolommeo Cristofori came up with the idea that the hammer could move  from its resting place, come forward and strike the string, and return to its  resting place in one very fluid movement.

this action by renner actions

There were many more differences but, this was somewhat similar to the action that Christofori made in the early 1700’s.  He referred to his new invention as “gravicembalo col piano e forte” which meant ” harpsichord with loud and soft”

This was the beginning of the piano as we know it today.  Lots has changed since that day and many things have stayed the same.

I will continue this series to help inform you of the origins of my passion.

Ric Overton

Ric@PianoSD.com

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Pinblocks

Posted February 7th, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on Pinblocks

As promised I am going to explain a couple of things about piano parts.  Tonights discussion is pinblocks.

For many years sales people have used certain terms to describe different parts of the piano and would use that information to develop a sales  pitch.  Salespeople to this day continue to use certain phrases as if they have some type of exclusivity to these parts or that no other piano has these parts.

Pinblocks are one of those parts.  Pinblocks ( at least all I know of them ) are made of hardrock maple, multi-layered and cross-grained to supply support.  Pinblocks are the part of the piano that the pins go into that hold the strings in place.  Each pin is placed in a scientific location and then pulled to a predetermined pitch to create a sound on pitch.

Every piano has a pinblock and is used for the same purpose. The location of the pinblock is the same and they are all made of the same materials.  The differences in pinblocks come down to how many plies of hard rock maple are used for these pinblocks.

where the pinblock is located in a grand

Some pinblocks are made of up to 18 plies of hard rock maple while others are made of up to 5 plies of hard rock maple.  As far as my knowledge is concerned, all piano makers use hard rock maple as their wood of choice.  The reason we use wood and not some other material is that wood will move and breathe with the change in climates and while it will go out of tune, most makers would agree that the use of any other material could cause the strings to break or lose their integrity quicker.

When sales people talk to you sometimes they make you feel as if their piano is the only one that has this.  It’s not.  Every piano has a pinblock.    

It is really important to understand terms when you go to shop for a piano or when on occasions your technician may want to talk to you when tuning.

One thing I do want to point out is the construction of the pinblock, in a new piano or a used on in particular is probably the most important part of the piano.  It’s location is such that it will require you to take the strings out of the piano, then the plate and finally the pinblock when you have to replace one.  It is one of the most difficult parts to repair and replace.

Ric Overton

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Where is it from

Posted February 5th, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on Where is it from

There has been a lot of gossip, speculation and talk about where certain pianos are being manufactured.  You expect and know that certain brands are made in Asia.  You would hope that certain pianos are made in the U.S. and you are convinced that others are made in Europe. So I want to discuss this topic.

Europe is the origin of piano manufacturing.  Germany specifically is the country where most people arguably agree that pianos are the finest.  For example, the top five rated pianos presently come from Germany.  The next question is just how much that means.

In this age of globalization, even pianos that come from Germany have parts that are made in Asia.  According to a friend of mine in Salzburg, only a small handful of companies produce pianos that are 100% Germany.  One of those companies is Sauter also Grotrian and August Forrester.

What this means is that these piano makers actually guarantee that each and every piece that is used in manufacturing has Germany as their country of origin.  This is a very difficult process and quite impressive.  It does show in their pricing.  For example you would expect to pay considerably more for a 6 ft. grand that is made by hand in Germany than one that is mass produced in China.

I for one have high regards for companies that are able to accomplish what  Sauter has accomplished in using only German parts in the process of making pianos.  However, I’m not convinced that having parts  from China (for example) is not acceptable as long as those parts are made with the same specs as those from a much higher caliber part.

If specifications are followed and the parts come out within acceptable tolerances, I feel that they are equal in performance value.  We have long been aware of some very high profile pianos that use certain parts made in China or Japan and until recently have done so with little or no comments from anyone.

I am proud of the American heritage of building pianos. However, to my knowledge there are only two American pianos left.  The Steinway of New York and Charles Walter are both made in the U.S. and claim to only have U.S. made parts.  I can not confirm nor deny this but, Iwill have to say that you also can see a difference in pricing from these two great piano makers than you see in an import.

So does this make the piano finer?  You will have to determine that based on your own opinion when played.  There truly is a difference in these pianos not only from the process of building but also in playing.  The textures of sound are much different and the touch of the piano is quite different.

I would encourage you to go to a piano store and try these pianos out to see the differences in each one.  It will be a test for you and hopefully, proof of what we are talking about here.

I will continue to offer opinions and profiles in the near future.

Ric Overton

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How much is healthy?

Posted January 30th, 2011 by Ric Overton | Comments Off on How much is healthy?

I was talking to a friend yesterday and we were talking about what our passions and loves were.  He was telling me about the things he enjoyed when he wasn’t working at his full time job and what his passions are.  When he asked me and I explained that my passion was pianos and music, he smiled.  As I went on to explain that every day my normal routine is to go straight to the internet, check my emails, look at Google alerts I have set up for Piano SD, Pianos in San Diego and Pianos.  After I have gotten those read, I usually start with my monthly magazines and once I have spent a little time catching up on the latest in the industry, I move over to the latest book I may be reading. Presently I am reading ALL about MUSIC.  It is a study of where music began up to the present age of music.  Quite interesting.

My friend seemed to look on with a weird look and asked if I was employed in the music industry right now and when I explained that I was not, he could not believe that I spent as much time out of my day every day to stay abreast with the latest happenings.

I love pianos.  I love the piano industry.  It is an intense industry made up of good people that have a real passion for people, pianos and music. We are all working for a common good.  Yes, it is how people make money to live but, its also a way to help other people.  Especially kids.

If you have kids you should immediately enroll them into a music program.  Yes, immediately and it has nothing to do with age.  There are programs out there for infants all the way to senior citizens.  No matter where you are on your journey through life, there is a place for music.

My friend thought I was crazy but, once I explained it to him what my passion is all  about and why he smiled and told me that he  felt inspired himself because my eyes actually watered  up and he said my facial expressions changed.

Music is the key folks, music is the key.  I hope this wasn’t to crazy of a blog but, just passing along a funny conversation.

Ric Overton, www.PianoSD.com via www.MaxMorganDesign.com

Moving forward

Posted January 29th, 2011 by Ric Overton | 1 Comment »

Its time we embraced modern technology and use it to get the word out about music and its effects on our daily lives.

Many years ago we  used the newspaper to make announcements such as sales, special events, etc. but, as things have begun to change it has become important that we reach out in different ways to let people know whats going on in our stores, concert halls, venues, etc.

I have such a love and passion about pianos and the piano business that I must use everything at my disposal to get the word out about our industry.

In the coming weeks I am going to discuss some history of the piano and how music evolved but in the meantime, I want us all to reflect on what “has been” but then REALLY focus on “what will be”.  We all get sentimental about the way things used to be.  Maybe we enjoyed a concert or recital, a play or performance of some kind.  Perhaps we were moved by a particular artist or student.  None of this would have been possible without music and a musician.

Social media has bought us an opportunity to bring more performers and artists to the main stage and in some cases even made them famous.  This is something that could have not been done by a newspaper.

Today I am watching CNN and its coverage of the disturbance in Cairo.  The upheaval was reportedly caused by people blogging and posting on Facebook and Twitter.  Amazing, that such a simple venue like Facebook and Twitter could be so powerful that it would actually help organize an international protest like the one in Egypt today.  A powerful tool that is at the very least very cheap or in most cases free. Amazing that we can communicate to millions with our own computers.  Amazing that we can “get the word out” as quickly and efficiently as we are capable of, but, THE MOST AMAZING OF ALL-WE ARENT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS MEDIA. I am hoping that some of the following posts will bring this full circle and we can combine some music education and love for various instruments to “get the word out” that music is important.

See you soon.

Ric Overton of www.PianoSD.com via www.MaxMorganDesign.com

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